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In an accident, a
deploying airbag asks for and gets Vehicle
Identification Numbers of surrounding vehicles.
Each vehicle's airbag(s) could come equipped
with a crash activated two- way radio with two
interrelated functions.
1) in the event of airbag deployment it
sends out a "who is here? I've just deployed,
le'mme jot down your digits, 'k?" signal. AKA
"WIH IJDLJDYDK" (presumably these chipsets
will be manufactured in Bosnia.)
2) in the event of being near (say 25
meters?)a deploying bag, the device answers
the above question with "I'm vin
#4567H2345J23, bummer 'bout your accident,
dude" (or the equivalent hexadecimal code)
Then when you submit your insurance claim
you also have the documentation from the chip
in the airbag and they can call up the
insurers/owners of the other cars and hash it
out along with the various accident reports.
Great for nabbing non-premeditated hit and
run drivers, drunks and reluctant witnesses.
Also good for establishing who was where in
reconstructing the scene, especially if there
is some basic directional data captured at the
same time. Since it is tied to the deployment
of the Airbag, it is restricted to just the
more serious events.
I think the outgoing message might need to
have a Vehicle identification Number in it as
well to prevent random snooping pings of the
"I wonder who is here at the shopping mall
today, let's troll the parking lot pinging"
type. The vehicle being pinged could get a
signal that says "check the log for the latest
"WIH IJDLJDYDK" signal history and
instructions for researching who sent it.
Communicating
Cars http://www.halfbake...ommunicating_20Cars
tangentially related idea by [flyfast], this one
was for relaying street congestion info [krelnik, delete]
VIN
rules for USA (USA USA...whatever)
http://www.verifyvin.com/vin_detail.html
On the internet no one knows you are a dog. On
the highways it is a different matter. [DadManWalking,
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I wouldn't advise actually putting it
in the airbag, but OK.
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As long as it included a firewall to
stop people launching DoS attacks on your
airbag.
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"All your wreck are belong to us!"
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ok, yes,[half] not inside the airbag
but somewhere back in that bit of kit that
anchors and powers it... |
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I forgot to mention fembots in the
details. They can use this too.
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//As long as it included a firewall to
stop people launching DoS attacks on your
airbag.// -[kropotkin] |
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I thought cars came with firewalls but
did not know they were for Driving on Sidewalk
attacks. Remind me to stay off the sidewalks
when you are around.
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So how does this distinguish between
other accident- mates, and nearby unrelated
autos? You might run in to illegal search laws,
at least in the USA. If it depends on other
cars' airbags deploying, that won't work. My
brother hit another car head on at about 6 mph a
piece. His airbag popped, the other one didn't.
And you'd have to make sure to only hit other
cars with the system. I like the idea, but not
the potential for implementation. We'd have to
start spending the extra cash now to get this in
our cars, for real benefit in about 20 years
from now, when the ratio of cars with to cars
without is good enough for regular use.
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1) how to distinguish between
accident-mates and non (great term btw)? it
doesn't. it just gets the raw census data about
the cars in the vicinity. We let humans sort out
what it means. The placement of "non involved"
cars even parked ones could influence the
settlement and adjudication as they effect sight
lines and might contain witnesses. |
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2) Illegal search laws. Yeah I was
wondering about them. The Supreme Court (US)
seems to be loosing interest in such niceties
but I think, even still, you are legally obliged
to bear witness if you have seen an accident.
And lend aid if you can. This just automates the
witness identification/scene detail gathering
process. |
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3) It does not depend on all the
airbags deploying. Just any one bag going off
sends out the "Who all is here" message and then
that triggers the "me!" message (and the "who
asked" line in the log.) |
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4) yes it is understood that it would
take a while for the prevalence to make it
worthwhile. But the same is true of common
bumper heights and was true for basic controls
in cars being the same from car to car. As the
rolling stock is replaced (20 years sounds
right) this feature would be more and more
valuable. The first car with this would be
useless (unless it got stuck in the assembly
line and got hit by the second!) |
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I plan on driving for the next 30 years
or so and the kid won't be behind the wheel for
16 or so... can we sign you up?
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Yeah, sure. My only hesitation now is
the privacy thing. I have no knowledge of any
legal requirement to bear witness either,
although I do whenever I see any accident, just
to be nice, and for karmic justice (which I
don't believe in, but what the heck). As they
say, work it out in production.
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Ok Privacy... I don't think we have it
now... if you go an look at your car's
windshield on the driver's side there is a place
to look through and down to see the VIN. It is
supposed to stay visible. (see link). Plus the
plates are supposed to be unobscured as well.
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